The problem with the statement that half or more would just drop out if it wasn't for shunning around family is that by that logic there would be whole families would leave or where 1 or 2 family members would still be in, that is just statistics. If that was the case then you would see whole families on exodus now. So i really doubt it is anywhere near 50%.
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How many JWs would Disassociate if their were no family sanctions?
by Chook ini think the swamp would empty overnight .
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Trump moves against paedophiles
by zeb inon the alex jones radio program (yes we get it here via emails) just recently he highlighted that president trump has cleared the way fro action against paedophiles.
i was unable to cut and past the item.. two things here.
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John Davis
Granted Trump has made it a habit of announcing policy decisions or giving very in depth interviews with alternative or smaller news and entertainment venues like Alex Jones thad doing press confrences or being interviewed by one of the major networks.
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Trump moves against paedophiles
by zeb inon the alex jones radio program (yes we get it here via emails) just recently he highlighted that president trump has cleared the way fro action against paedophiles.
i was unable to cut and past the item.. two things here.
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John Davis
NYC is probably closer to the NY NJ state line than Warwick is.
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Do you think the general public cares about former Jehovah's witnesses?
by Christian Gutierrez ini was wondering if you guys think if the general public cares about our stories or if they even care what the watchtower does to people??
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John Davis
It is really hard to get large amounts of people to react to things that have direct impacts in their everyday lives already let alone something that doesn't affect most people. Look at the issue of police brutality in cities like Furgeson or violence in the neighbourhoods of any major city in the US and around the world. When a tragedy strikes there is a protest for a short period of time, but those protests don't last long and in reality doesn't encompass a large percentage of the community. There maybe a 1000 people protesting but if the city and the metro area has 4 Million people that is a tiny percentage of people protesting. Those protests normally fizzle out long before any actual change occurs. And these things are impacting people's everyday life and they can't be bothered to step up to make a change, so how likely do you think that people will be when they have had no impact with Witnesses.
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Do you think the general public cares about former Jehovah's witnesses?
by Christian Gutierrez ini was wondering if you guys think if the general public cares about our stories or if they even care what the watchtower does to people??
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John Davis
You probably won't ever get the general public to care. Even with all of this talk about Leah Remley special no one cares about Scientologists and their practices. JWs and Scientologists and Mormons are nothing more than a punchline. There weren't big protest outside of the Scientologist headquarters or their celebrity centre in LA after she did her special. So why would you think that people would care about Witnesses?
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Trump moves against paedophiles
by zeb inon the alex jones radio program (yes we get it here via emails) just recently he highlighted that president trump has cleared the way fro action against paedophiles.
i was unable to cut and past the item.. two things here.
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John Davis
Trump maybe meaning that he will want ICE to enforce the laws the prosecute American Citizens that engage in sex tourism with minors. \
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Trump moves against paedophiles
by zeb inon the alex jones radio program (yes we get it here via emails) just recently he highlighted that president trump has cleared the way fro action against paedophiles.
i was unable to cut and past the item.. two things here.
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John Davis
There should be a change in the law so that sexual child abuse is a crime across the country in the same way with the same penalties. It is weird how there is no unifying law for all 50 states on this but there is a federal law where if you go to another country with the sole intention of committing child abuse in a foreign country and even if it is not illegal in that country the US Government can still arrest and charge you with a crime.
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Trump moves against paedophiles
by zeb inon the alex jones radio program (yes we get it here via emails) just recently he highlighted that president trump has cleared the way fro action against paedophiles.
i was unable to cut and past the item.. two things here.
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John Davis
Trump can instruct the Justice Department to focus their law enforcement agencies on going after paedophiles but that is all he can do on his own. But for the most part sexual child abuse is not a federal crime, which it should be, it is only a federal crime if you use the internet, phone or mail to entice a minor to engage in sexual abuse, or if you transport a minor across state lines to sexually abuse a child, or if you transmit images or depictions of the abuse through the internet, phone or mail, or if the abuse takes place on federally owned land or property. The closest law that deals with child abuse on the federal level are 42USC 5106g which just defines abuse when it comes to a parent or caregiver either giving treatment or withholding treatment of a child medical condition that causes death or injury, but that also requires the states to enact the laws to enforce those definitions.
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The Satisfying Decline Of My Old Congregations Donations
by pale.emperor inaccording to the uk charity commission, my old kingdom hall is hemorrhaging money and less is coming in.
long may it continue.. any ideas what a crappy, run down, shack of a kh spends £49,472.87 on in three years?
they were praying for a new hall for about 10 years until bethel basically stole it off them to build warwick.. .
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John Davis
Also, the 2015 number is an anomaly. The 2015 number is more in line with the rest of the numbers provided, still a decline but not as big of a decline.
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Witnesses Agree That Institutions That Don’t Report Child Abuse Should Be Fined
by cha ching intoday my husband was on his way to meet a friend.
the purpose of the meeting was to discuss how to have a bill introduced into congress, which would require non-profit institutions to report child abuse to the authorities.
the penalty for not reporting would be a fine.. one of the motives behind this effort, is to raise awareness about child sex abuse.
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John Davis
The first step is to get Congress to actually make child abuse a federal crime, which it should be. That seems like what Australia wants to do by making one age of consent law and making child sexual abuse a federal level offence rather than just letting each province make their own decision on this horrific crime. And even the Witnesses, for whatever that is worth, said that they would be happy if the government did that.
It is sad though that the political system in America is so broken that even for something so basic and easy to realise that it is needed won't ever pass. The two political parties can't agree on a single thing and neither trust the other not to throw on amendments that would make it so that the other party can't vote for it.